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Kayla's avatar

See, I think there is a disagreement here about what "the real problem" is. If "the real problem" is racial inequality, then affirmative action/racial quotas don't fix it because they only operate at the finish line. But if "the real problem" is that people from My Group don't get enough power or money, then quotas can in fact fix it, and you may not care at all whether the people who get the power and money know what to do with it.

The other problem with the view that the real problem is racial inequality is that no one knows what to do about it, and even interventions at very early stages in work (free prenatal care, preschool/Head Start, free school lunches, aggressive intervention in child abuse) seem not to work.

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One "solution" to unequal outcomes in standardized testing is to decrease the effect that standardized testing (and college education) has on people's lives. If Stuyvesant's alumni didn't have such drastically superior life outcomes to others, then the racial composition of the school wouldn't matter.

This is the argument presented in Freddie DeBoer's The Cult of Smart. The general idea of compressing outcomes, rather than worrying about human capital development(such as education) comes up in the conversation between Piper and Matt Bruenig here:

https://www.theargumentmag.com/p/mad-libs-bruenig-v-piper

I find the thinking behind this pretty convincing. Just because someone is smarter doesn't mean that they need to have a drastically better life than their dumber peers. And it sidesteps the morass of arguing about why different groups perform differently. I've never seen that be a productive discussion.

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